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Michael Wilbon

Michael Wilbon

American commentator

Oct 26, 2026

25:39
What are your thoughts about that and what you've got coming up? Because you've got a tough one.
25:45
What we've got coming up is everything.
25:46
It's the whole season.
25:48
We've got a one-game season.
25:49
We play at Oregon Saturday.
25:54
And we've got one loss at the Big Ten.
25:57
We can only sustain a second loss.
29:32
What do you think? No, because
8:38
Please take that down.
8:39
Yeah.
8:40
You can put any of three people at the top.
8:44
You can put Norton and Cranston at the top.
8:48
You can put Ali and Cosell at the top.
8:49
And you can put Summerall and Madden at the top for us.
8:52
That's right.
10:05
You don't have to be pretty.
6:18
No?
6:18
No. No.
6:20
The Mike Tyson segment stands out so incredibly.
6:25
You have to go.
6:25
I'm not going to spoil it.
6:27
People can go on YouTube.
6:28
They can go see Mike Tyson as a guest on PTI.

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20:41
We were talking about him in the pre-show, Mike.
6:18
No?
6:18
No. No.
6:20
The Mike Tyson segment stands out so incredibly.
6:25
You have to go.
6:25
I'm not going to spoil it.
6:27
People can go on YouTube.
6:28
They can go see Mike Tyson as a guest on PTI.

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20:41
We were talking about him in the pre-show, Mike.
35:52
Now that's a hit.
35:53
No, here's what he does right away.
35:54
First half of the column.
35:55
He calls the office and he says to whoever the sports daily editor is, listen.
36:02
you can run whatever you want to run from the All-Star game.
36:05
I'm writing about Marvin Gaye and the anthem.
36:08
And there were looks around the copy editors saying what, because first of all, they weren't listening.

19 MINS LATER

54:58
We're actually thinking about it and talking about it, and we gradually get to the point where we're confident
22:34
Yeah.
22:36
And, and, and when you grew up in the Midwest, that includes a, a heavy, heavy, heavy dose of Notre Dame and Michigan.
22:44
And so Michigan's not in the discussion now.
22:46
They're not any good, and I wonder what's gonna happen there, um, after this season.
22:51
But Notre Dame, wow.
22:53
And it, it, and people can't, there's no, "Oh, what Notre Dame didn't do, how did they fail?" I d- don't wanna hear it.
23:00
Notre Dame actually got sort of hosed.
25:49
Yeah.
20:41
Oh
20:41
... and Jordan was that in terms of spirit, in terms of just winning.
20:46
And the two of them had...
20:48
You know, they, they, they had a relationship.
20:50
I'm not gonna say to you they were, you know, tight, everyday tight, but they shared the town.
20:57
Um, and so yeah, yeah, uh, no, no, Mike and Michael am, am very different.
21:02
And Ditka, Ditka, Tony, there were, there's so many stories.

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26:41
No.
40:30
[laughs]
40:30
I, I need to, I need to say that to him because it's not.
40:34
It's not possible without him.
40:36
So now, having said that, this is a game we need to win.
40:40
Like, what are our aspirations? What are our ambitions? If we can beat Michigan State, Iowa, Rutgers...
40:50
Or in order, Michigan State, Rutgers, Iowa, and Illinois, and even if we lose to Oregon and Ohio State, if we go nine and three, what does that mean? I mean, it, it basically, it still keeps you...
41:09
It, it, it makes other people pay attention to you, other kids who might be in the portal, other recruits, um, other soon-to-be-fired NFL coaches who might be looking for a gig.
42:09
Yeah.
40:30
[laughs]
40:30
I, I need to, I need to say that to him because it's not.
40:34
It's not possible without him.
40:36
So now, having said that, this is a game we need to win.
40:40
Like, what are our aspirations? What are our ambitions? If we can beat Michigan State, Iowa, Rutgers...
40:50
Or in order, Michigan State, Rutgers, Iowa, and Illinois, and even if we lose to Oregon and Ohio State, if we go nine and three, what does that mean? I mean, it, it basically...
41:06
It still keeps you...
42:09
Yeah.
6:10
It's really remarkable.
6:11
remarkable.It is.
6:13
They, they, they're so unorthodox, but there's such energy about it and creativity about it.
6:18
And I don't know Venable from, you know, Adam, other than looking at what he's doing.
6:24
Um, uh, obviously [laughs] a very bright man of Princeton, uh, at- two sport athlete.
6:30
I, I just, I marvel at what they're doing.
6:31
They have all the energy the Cubs didn't have at the end.
7:58
Because I- they're, they came from a, you know, you know, an, you know, a place where no expectations existed for them.
6:10
It's really remarkable.
6:11
remarkable.It is.
6:13
They, they, they're so unorthodox, but there's such energy about it and creativity about it.
6:18
And I don't know Venable from, you know, Adam, other than looking at what he's doing.
6:24
Um, uh, obviously [laughs] a very bright man of Princeton, uh, at- two-sport athlete.
6:30
I, I just, I marvel at what they're doing.
6:31
They have all the energy the Cubs didn't have at the end.
7:58
Because I- they're, they came from a, you know, you know, an, you know, a place where no expectations existed for them.
15:06
Tell us about it.
15:07
Well, Tony, on the 100th year anniversary of the original football stadium opening at Northwestern in Evanston, 100th year anniversary, we opened a new one.
15:17
So every 100 years, you know, we put it on.
15:23
And it's been coming for a while.
15:26
You hear me talk about it all the time.
15:28
You heard me talk about the building all the time.
15:31
And it's just a phenomenal place.
18:08
You have a different theory, right? What is
7:53
So it, it's that, like, it's-
7:54
I like the spirit of them.
7:55
I don't know these guys.
7:57
I don't know each profile of each player.
7:59
I'm learning.
8:00
You know, I'm learning and getting favorites in Montgomery, and I, I'm getting favorites, but I haven't...
8:05
I s- I didn't start watching the White Sox till September, so I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm some, some expert on the White Sox.

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14:22
Ah.
7:53
So it, it's that, like, it's-
7:54
I like the spirit of them.
7:55
I don't know these guys.
7:57
I don't know each profile of each player.
7:59
I'm learning.
8:00
You know, I'm learning and getting favorites in Montgomery, and I, I'm getting favorites, but I haven't...
8:05
I s- I didn't start watching the White Sox till September, so I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm some, some expert on the White Sox.

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14:22
Ah.
4:09
Do you remember the idea of the show being pitched to you and what appealed to you about it? What made you say yes to it in the early days, 25 years ago?
4:19
Yeah, Mark Shapiro pitched it.
4:23
And Mark was a young executive at ESPN and ambitious as hell.
4:28
And said one day, he was with Tony and me at the Washington Post in our offices in 1998.
4:36
And he said, one day I'm going to be somebody at the network and I'm going to be involved with programming.
4:41
I'm going to put you guys on television.
4:43
And I remember Tony said, the next thing that's going to happen is you're going to get fired.

32 MINS LATER

36:46
Is that an exaggeration or you agree with
22:14
Huh.
22:15
I don't wanna sound ungrateful, and it was, it was, what was, what was really good going in, I know you asked me on Thursday, you said you, "You think you have a chance?" I, I do think we have a chance.
22:26
I don't think we're gonna win.
22:27
I think it'll be close.
22:28
And, 'cause I, I really thought, um, I had told my, my dear friend Jeff Niantic, who you know, who's a Hoosier, Niantic texted me before the game.
22:35
He says, "You gotta, you, you, you think you're gonna win, don't you?" And I said, "31-24." I said, "I, I, but I think we're gonna have a chance." And that's exactly how it played out.
22:45
And Cignetti, as he's walking off the field, says to the sideline reporter, "I told you people all week Northwestern is good." There, and he, and he essentially says, "They're where we were two years ago." And he said it multiple times and meant it.

10 MINS LATER

33:03
Yes
35:19
Mm.
35:19
Like, come on, seriously.
35:21
And for somebody who grew up in the news business, um, [laughs] you know, Walter Cronkite.
35:29
I mean, e- every- everything that I consumed at that age from, from the time I became aware of news...
35:36
And I was a news junkie by the time I was eight, nine years old, straight through Watergate and all of that, st- into college.
35:43
Um, Walter Cronkite was some part of that.
35:46
Doesn't mean I watched, um, Mr. Cronkite every night.

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42:26
[laughs]
35:19
Mm.
35:19
Like, like, come on, seriously.
35:21
And for somebody who grew up in the news business, um, [laughs] you know, Walter Cronkite.
35:29
I mean, e- every- everything that I consumed at that age from, from the time I became aware of news, and I was a news junkie by the time I was eight, nine years old, straight through Watergate and all of that, st- into college, um, Walter Cronkite was some part of that.
35:46
Doesn't mean I watched, um, Mr. Cronkite every night.
35:50
I probably sampled what was going on in nightly news, but he, he was the heavyweight.
35:55
He was the GOAT.

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42:26
[laughs]
20:40
Yeah,
20:40
Miami.
20:41
Like, this week, to me...
20:43
So, yesterday, I said to Kelleher, what's the deal this week? Are there games? And he said, yeah, starting like Friday with you at Indiana.
20:55
And it's just a slew of games.
20:59
This is really week one.
21:01
Obviously, it's not as week three, week four, whatever it is, week four.

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29:17
You're
38:06
Well, you have any, uh, uh, Cubs thoughts here? How you feeling about, uh, where they are right now?
38:11
Well, I mean, I don't think we can fall out.
38:15
We could, but, you know, I just...
38:19
The bullpen has, it changed the season.
38:21
It changed.
38:21
You know, the health caught up with the pitching staff, and the bullpen changed the season, and we don't have anything reliable.
38:28
The Padres are a team that scares me to death.
40:07
You've got some, uh, Bull fever, don't you?
29:35
Yeah.
29:35
You don't have to have a great back anymore, but you better have a really good back.
29:38
And Swift is a really fine running back.
29:42
And Manunga is young and full of piss and vinegar, as they used to say in the old days.
29:47
And he just has burst.
29:50
And if those two guys are healthy, now you need a third guy who's on practice squad or something.
29:55
You're going to need a third guy that you can go to at some point midway of your season when people get, you know, bumps and bruises.

8 MINS LATER

38:06
You have any Cubs thoughts here? How are you feeling about where they are right now?
19:38
Did you watch and you have a reaction?
19:40
Nope.
19:41
Did not watch one swing of the racket, no.
19:44
I, I watched, uh, a ton of tennis right from day one, two Sundays ago, uh, right through the semifinals, semis.
19:53
Right through the semis Friday night, uh, and Thursday night and Friday night, and enjoyed it, loved it.
20:00
I watched as much US Open as I possibly could, and then that was that.
20:05
I mean, that was, I wasn't, uh, really interested in the finalists as much.
24:35
Yeah.
12:12
How fired up, Wilbon, on the college front, how fired up were you over what happened with the Michigan game?
12:18
Very angry.
12:19
Because it was a lie.
12:21
The game, the results of fraud.
12:23
Tell me that I didn't see what I saw? And I've talked to enough people who have told me who work in sports, either in broadcasting or in Clock management.
12:35
I'm not going to say where specifically.
12:37
And they're like, dude, we're talking about if there's a difference, it's not a second or two.
15:05
They go
12:12
How fired up, Wilbon, on the college front, how fired up were you over what happened with the Michigan game?
12:18
Very angry.
12:19
Because it was a lie.
12:21
The game, the results of fraud.
12:23
Tell me that I didn't see what I saw? And I've talked to enough people who have told me who work in sports, either in broadcasting or in Clock management.
12:35
I'm not going to say where specifically.
12:37
And they're like, dude, we're talking about if there's a difference, it's not a second or two.
15:05
They go
20:18
How do you decide what to watch, and how would you say you divided up the pie?
20:23
I love it when you do this every year because I know like you, both of us, this is like one of our favorite weeks of the year.
20:29
Tony, I don't divide up anything.
20:31
You're asking me a question like you're John Chancellor and it's 1957.
20:35
What are you talking about here? You watch it all.
20:41
You just said a feast.
20:41
That's great.

9 MINS LATER

30:07
You think Shelton will beat him?

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