Would love for you, if you're willing, to share a little bit more with our listeners about your career journey and what brings you to where you're at today.

Thank you, Andrew.

And thank you, Jess.

And thanks for having me on the People Leader Accelerator podcast.

Yeah, my journey, I've always been very mission driven and strong values orientation.

And when I first went to college, I thought, well, I need a skill.

I want to be in the business space, a good skills accounting, and then got two accounting degrees and a CPA license.

Which way do you see it working best? And is there a general approach that does work better? I