What's the, what's the br- what's the brand of fin- of crypto like in the fintech space these days?

I'll tell you the way I think about it, um, and where I think we could be going.

So I think it's really important to recognize the work that's been done by the crypto community and the crypto builders and the participants over the last decade.

And in many ways it's been a, a long phase of R&D, in the sense that when you wanna move markets as big as the financial markets, which is trillions and trillions and trillions, like hundreds of trillions of dollars, it's not gonna happen overnight.

It has to be true, tried, and tested.

It has to go through a number of cycles.

And so when I look at the crypto ecosystem, I see, I see two things.

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