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Michael Taylor

British historian and author of "Illuminati: The History of a Conspiracy Theory", "Impossible Monsters", and "The Interest" (Orwell Prize shortlist).

Oct 15, 2026

41:02
What, like 1848?
41:05
Remarkably, not too much around 1848.
41:07
I think mostly because...
41:09
They failed, those revolutions, almost all of them.
41:14
In some parts of the world, they become a cultural trope.
41:17
So they appear in Douma, they appear in Tolstoy.
41:21
In the early 20th century, they appear in Thomas Mann's Magic Mountain.
46:22
What's the current thinking about the Illuminati? You've probably been in some pretty interesting internet
13:52
It's a, it's a clout game.
13:55
It is.
13:55
Um, Weishaupt begins looking for promising students at Ingolstadt.
13:59
So, um, who are the bright sparks who have shown an interest in this contraband literature? And he h-himself has friends and contacts, so, um, they can look around Munich society and say, "Well, oh, this chap's got an, got an important job in the foreign service," or, "This guy's an influential civil servant or a judge, uh, or an experienced soldier.
14:20
These are the types of men that we need to build this society.
14:24
We want to be able to place them, uh, in prominent positions in civil society, and that's how we can influence the direction of the Bavarian state." Um, I did say men there, and it is important to note that Weishaupt had no place for women in the society.
14:40
Um, he would later be accused of atheism, but he was also insistent that there shouldn't be any atheists, there shouldn't be any infidels.

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21:28
Yeah.
41:15
What, like 1848?
41:18
Remarkably, not too much around 1848.
41:21
I think mostly because...
41:23
They failed, those revolutions, almost all of them.
41:27
In some parts of the world, they become a cultural trope.
41:30
So they appear in Douma, they appear in Tolstoy.
41:34
In the early 20th century, they appear in Thomas Mann's Magic Mountain.
46:36
What's the current thinking about the Illuminati? You've probably been in some pretty interesting internet

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