I like to listen, too.

Sure, yeah.

So I'll give you the slightly, slightly longer version.

So I was sitting in my, my dorm room, and I heard coming through the ceiling what was unmistakably, uh, the song "Slit Your Guts" by Cryptopsy from their album None So Vile from 1996, which is, like, now kind of like a legendary death metal song, which I knew from high school.

And, you know, I immediately ran upstairs, knocked on the door, and said, "Who's in this room?" You know, 'cause it's not so often that you would find someone that knew that music at that time.

And so I-- Hamilton opened the door, and we immediately became friends.

And as I was hanging out in his dorm room, um, you know, this was the first time we ever met.

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