The question that we have is like, is there a way to understand these phenomena from a material standpoint and then use that understanding of the material standpoint to be able to explain things that are not yet explainable? And this infrared heat signature, I think, is really important and interesting.

It is.

I think it might be worth even going back to, you know, you introduced us as physicists at the beginning of the show.

We were actually biophysicists by training.

So we did our PhDs in biophysics, which is a really, it might seem kind of jarring, like why the hell are these biophysicists talking about quantum mechanics? But I think we're in a kind of unique position to make progress in that field because the world we come from is looking at the magic of biology, things that don't make sense in the biological world, and then looking at the material structures that can unveil those mysteries.

So we're looking at how the individual molecules pull and push on each other inside of cellular structures, inside maybe even how water is structured to do tensile processes, like how the hell does a dandelion open itself up in the morning, right? It's pretty wild.

I mean, the thing's not doing the kind of processes that you're used to in everyday life because there's these little subunits that are out of sight, these little atoms and molecules that are actually bumping and pulling on each other.

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