Ramona specifically.

Ramona.

So yeah, I can talk about Ramona, Biometric and Aqua probably because I'm on the board of all three.

Ramona is a special array microscope.

that does very clever imagery so if you've ever tried to take a picture of a flower up close you'll realize that it's very difficult to get everything in focus because of the depth of field issues when you start looking at things that are really small and the math that came out of caltech allows you to see everything in super clear resolution no matter how small it is and so they've applied it in a couple of areas.

One, they've done in semiconductors for inspecting packaging on semiconductors to make sure adversaries haven't put anything they shouldn't have on the packaging.

But also in particular, the exciting part here is they've applied it to the medical field where they look at cancer and white cell interaction.

Can you talk a little bit about the difference between selling privately and going public and your preference?