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Michael Shear
Chief U.K. correspondent for The New York Times and two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, formerly the paper's White House correspondent.
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Sep 11, 2026
US Midterms: winds of fury
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Charlie EdwardsHOST
If I told you on the 3rd of January 2027 that Democrats had the House, how much would that move your estimate that a defence bill is law by the 31st of March?
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3:30Michael ShearGUEST
we decided by the beginning of January that they did have the majority, that the Democrats had the majority.
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3:35Michael ShearGUEST
Look, I think I start from the question of whether or not it's likely in any scenario for a full year defense appropriations to actually be passed and passed in some sort of timely fashion.
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3:50Michael ShearGUEST
And I think You know, experience in recent history, five, ten years, would suggest that's unlikely in any event, no matter what the configuration of the political system is in Washington.
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4:03Michael ShearGUEST
They've sort of settled into this habit of governing and spending by continuing resolution, which is to say they just kick the can down the road over and over and over again because they can't quite agree.
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4:20Michael ShearGUEST
There is going to be an enormous amount of pressure on the Democrats to do anything they can to block anything that Trump wants to do.
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Charlie EdwardsHOST
do you think he would want a visible fight over the pentagon's budget this time or does he need this one quiet for some of the reasons that you've both outlined
The Atlantic: NPS Changed the Way it Prioritizes Projects to Expedite Trump’s Requests
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Phil MattinglyHOST
Uh, the rapid approval system, how did it come to be, and how has the Interior Department responded?
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4:04Michael ShearGUEST
Yeah, so I did a story in June that found, uh, y- reviewed other, uh, National Park Service documents that showed about $800 million less was being spent at parks outside of DC and $100 million more in DC.
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4:15Michael ShearGUEST
And I, uh, it, it struck me odd at, odd at the time 'cause there was a gap there.
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4:22Michael ShearGUEST
One of the things that's really d- dragging all of this down is that Doge came in, and there was a huge reduction in contracting workforce.
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4:28Michael ShearGUEST
A lot of the contracting officers at the parks were moved up into the Interior Department.
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4:32Michael ShearGUEST
And I got documents for this story that showed, uh, you know, in one, in one case 133 projects were ready to go outside the country but weren't being done.
Phil MattinglyHOST
But this seems to be, uh, an excruciatingly difficult get creative moment given personnel restraints, but also just trying to get onto a list [laughs] that is prioritized or White House related seems to be the make or break here.
"Donald Trump's worst impulses"
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34:51Michael ShearGUEST
... and then added to that you had the projects the president was already doing at the White House and around the White House.
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34:56Michael ShearGUEST
And, and as a result, you know, well more than, uh, uh, uh, $100 million has gone into, uh, the Washington region for a whole lot of projects.
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35:06Michael ShearGUEST
You know, some of the projects that, that I mention in this current report are not just actual, you know, monuments or buildings.
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35:12Michael ShearGUEST
They're hiring 450 new park police as part of the safe and beautiful effort.
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35:16Michael ShearGUEST
And so they're getting new tasers, new body armor, uh, new flock cameras for, for the DC area, uh, to, to basically build up this federal police f- force i- in the Washington, DC area.
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35:28Michael ShearGUEST
Th- th- there's been p- uh, a request made for a new helicopter for the park police, a new boat for the park police up, uh, in New York.
Alicia MenendezHOST
Michael, can you pick up on the point that Angelo's making there about the long tail of all of this?
Mayor of Kyiv says Ukraine needs more help
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16:29Michael ShearGUEST
I think there are a couple of emotional reasons that, uh, might have prompted this move as well as some pragmatic ones.
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16:39Michael ShearGUEST
Uh, Me-Meghan and Harry have expressed a desire to have the children have some connection to Harry's homeland, to, to Britain, uh, and not just be raised as, uh, as Americans.
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16:48Michael ShearGUEST
They've spent m- almost all their lives, both of the kids, in the United States.
Tim FranksHOST
Uh, and so, you know, how far the British state should pay for them, and also actually, maybe a broader question, is what non-working royals are actually gonna do in the United Kingdom?
Iran Deal or No Deal, Will Europe Lead in Ukraine, The Pope Takes on AI
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Ivo DaalderHOST
Why, why sit on the sidelines when the future, uh, security, their future security i- is, is at stake? It's, it's an interesting sort of sense of impotence playing out in real time.
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10:27Michael ShearGUEST
And I, and I think, uh, there's probably lots of answers, but I think one of the big ones is that Trump has engineered, um, leverage for the United States that makes the other countries around the world, actually, but, but especially in Europe, um, feel like they have even less power than they, they probably felt they had before.
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10:48Michael ShearGUEST
So the fear of, "If we interfere with what the United States wants, uh, President Trump is gonna, you know, post something about tariffs, or he's gonna, you know, uh, take away some, leave some sort of deal that we had arranged already." I mean, there i-- He is more willing than any other president that we've had, certainly in recent times, to wield levers of power that, that aren't o- obviously relevant from one to the other, and, and that has put all of these other nations on the back foot.
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11:22Michael ShearGUEST
You know, s- so why do they not get involved? Why do they let Trump, you know, um, steer the ship, essentially? I think, I think in part because they're afraid of, of the consequences if they, if they step out of line, in his view.
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11:41Michael ShearGUEST
One, I think there, you know, to Susan's point about what this deal is and isn't, in essence, what this quote-unquote deal is, is solving a problem that didn't exist before Donald Trump himself started the war.
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Ivo DaalderHOST
So what do you think the Pope is actually trying to accomplish here, and how is it landing in Washington?
“1 in a 400 year event”
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12:14Michael ShearGUEST
We have a culture, uh, the British newspapers are, many of them are tabloids.
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12:19Michael ShearGUEST
Uh, they're like a dog with a bone, and I think, um, the reaction in these last few weeks to, uh, what Tara and you have described as this, you know, onslaught of documents and, and revelations, has been pretty relentless.
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12:33Michael ShearGUEST
And so I think, uh, there came a point in the last, you know, couple of weeks where the King acknowledged finally that, uh, uh, in a statement, that he would cooperate fully with the police if there was an arrest.
Nicolle WallaceHOST
W- I mean, does that- I, I, I ne- I guess you need to understand the baseline of how the royal family is held, what his place in it is, and whether or not this damages the brand, if you will, of, of the modern royals.
Washington Week with the Atlantic full episode, 3/21/25
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4:00Michael ShearGUEST
What would be unheard of is if it goes to the end of the road, as David said, especially in a court where, you know, six of the nine recently ruled in Trump's favor in Trump... In the, in the, um, election interference, uh, uh, case and, and three of them, he appointed. So if he, if he defies this court, that will be a remarkable moment, I think.
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10:04Michael ShearGUEST
It's also true that a lot of the things his administration wants to do, it needs the Court to change c- current legal interpretation to do. He needs judges. He- either he's gonna go, you know, totally r- rip up the Constitution and go it alone or he's gonna do what they've said they're going to do, which is to challenge birthright citizenship, to challenge the Impoundment Act, to challenge all these laws that are on the books right now, they're interpreted as legal right now that he doesn't think are legal. And- and so I think a way of looking at what this is... What- what he's doing here and he did in the first term is he's- he's threatening judges. He's saying, "Look. I'll make your life hard if you defy me. I'm gonna call you out. I'm gonna make everything difficult around you." And he's- he's doing a Bobby Knight. He's throwing the chair, you know, into the middle of the basketball court.