government was losing the fight online that was becoming really obvious to us because when we were advocating the no response anything that we shared online was just popping it would just go berserk as far as engagement was concerned and they worked out when it was too late that they couldn't wrestle this thing back they don't want that to happen again that's what this is really about

Yeah, no, absolutely.

I mean, I think a lot of us are paying attention to the part of the bill that says that they can censor anything that may cause significant harm, or serious harm, I should say.

But there's another part of the bill that none of us even noticed for the first three weeks after it was released.

That allows the government to run an unlimited number of fake accounts to spread, to disseminate what they say educational promotional purposes.

When we ask them about that, they say, oh, that's just to enforce the law, just to enforce, make sure that the companies are enforcing it.

But no, the legislation allows them to have unlimited fake accounts that are known as sock puppets.

So the only solution for them is to change the rules.

So I think there's a bit of that woke ideology that she's brought here, that obsession with censorship.

Yeah, I mean, look, I think there's networks of people, particularly on the left, who have had, you know, one foot in various sort of government operations.

She's very close with the World Economic Forum.

The World Economic Forum kind of runs these extra governmental networks that include many people that were in government or are in government.

And so, you know, and she's a very interesting character because she came out and sort of out of the blue volunteered to a journalist that the CIA had recruited her, but that she did not work for the CIA.

We all thought that was a very strange thing to just kind of come out and say.

And so, I mean, I think, you know, President Trump has done a lot of work to try to clean up what we call the deep state, these FBI, CIA, other intelligence agencies, so they don't have these activists, political and partisan people trying to wage information warfare against the law, against their political enemies.

But the sort of ideological issues that left governments would want to censor are quite broad, aren't they? Can you run us through some of the sort of issues that you'd expect this legislation to try and influence?

How worrying is this?

I mean, this is an incredibly sweeping, comprehensive bill.

It basically allows them to censor anything they don't like.

The specific language in one part is they can censor anything that, quote, may cause serious harm, unquote.

That could be psychological harm.

You know, that could be, you know, calling, you know, biological male a male rather than a trans woman.

That could include saying that we don't want mass migration or we're worried about terrorism from migration, all very legitimate concerns.

Can you talk a bit about this?

So I just wanted to give you some bona fides there.

Thank you.

Yeah, obviously it's a big issue, and I think many Americans felt that they didn't need to pay attention to the issue at all, but now we've seen trans-identified people engaged in shootings, obviously, or maybe not obviously, probably obviously to your audience, it was the last thing that Charlie Kirk was talking about before he was assassinated.

It appears as though the evidence that Tyler Robinson committed that assassination is pretty overwhelming, and to be fair to Joe Kent, he didn't dispute that what's really what he's raising here is that there may be some broader conspiracy and there's not a lot of evidence for that.

And but nonetheless, because Kent is such an important voice, he could easily be used by the defense attorneys.

I did directly ask him repeatedly that, you know, given that his agency is an intelligence gathering, a really an intelligence synthesizing and coordinating agency as part of the broader coordinating intelligence mission of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

You know, he didn't have the authorities to do a law enforcement investigation.

Please.

And why don't you kick us off? Sure.

Thank you for making space for new media.

Nice to meet all of you.

It's great to be here.

I want to see if you could give some insight.

The President is considering additional measures against Europe and Brazil, not just for censorship, but also for preventing political candidates from actually competing in elections.

We've now seen in Romania, France, and now Germany with Joachim Paul, efforts to basically just prevent candidates from being able to compete in elections.

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What do you think the truth is here?

I think that what I think is what I think most reporters here think and most of the public think, which is that there's a lot of files.

I mean, the you know, the attorney general said a truckloads full, you know, tens of thousands of videos.

Epstein's victims had said that there were that they were videotaping.

The sexual activity, the sexual abuse, the sex trafficking.

You know, look, most people that have covered this and by the way, it's it's left wing, right wing, mainstream news media, Miami Herald.

I mean, it's pretty widely held among the journalists that have covered this, that this was a sex blackmail operation with ties to the intelligence community.

Is this a leadership issue, and what needs to happen now?

What's your view on this matter?

Well, first of all, Sherry, congratulations to you because you were ahead of most other, almost every other reporter in the world on this, and you haven't gotten credited sufficiently.

So first of all, hats off to you.

You did an amazing job and you have been proven correct in all of your original reporting.

So bravo to you.

We're late comers to this.

I've only been working on it for a couple of years, but we're really staying on your shoulders on this issue.

How do you see this playing out?