What about you? How did you discover it after your breakdown, as you were explaining earlier?

So, you know, it's interesting.

I think we can both agree.

We've been kind of living in a cultural, political moment.

since at least 2009 with the great financial crisis.

But especially with Mr. Trump and that whole movement really changing the accepted norms of how things are done.

And by late 2024 there, when he was about to take office again, I was, I was working through in my mind and, and with people that I knew like, what, how do you live with this? How do you live with this? When it's your, your world's being turned upside down by a system that you don't agree with.

Maybe we're not as powerless as we think we are.