how did you get to the point to be able to help Secret Service and be able to go to travel?

So I was sitting in the US Marshal's office with the Secret Service agent that was in charge of my arrest.

And he was like, hey, we can't really reinsert you anymore because everybody's already been arrested.

And plus, you're more beneficial for us if you educate us rather than us reinserting you into the crime scene again.

And then he said, are you willing to put like a seminar or like put a PowerPoint presentation and speak your story and tell them the truth and all that stuff in front of a bunch of cops and prosecutors and different.

I was like, yeah, sure.

Why not? You know? So I ended up doing that.

Like, what have you developed?