It's not the same as going in there with a gun and sticking up a store.

Right.

So it's more, this is being portrayed as a violent crime, supposedly, but it was threats of violence, they said.

Well, John wasn't going out there with a bat.

It was threats of violence.

And the problem, the biggest problem I see in this entire hearings and everything, John Aylate of 2025-26 is not the guy in that courtroom.

In the eyes of them...

And make them go away? Yeah,