So Michael, what was your role before and has that changed?

Yeah, so I'd say right around the time when maybe our youngest was about to be done nursing, Kessie came to me and was like, well, this is an untenable situation.

I was her boss in a lot of ways, and I was not a very good boss, both of her and her crew.

I'm not a good boss.

I wasn't real developing methods for people to take leadership and giving up control.

And so it was a lot of like ping-ponging tasks.

And I was kind of the director and I had like too much on my plate and I was stressed out from it and not doing a good job as a result of that on top of like...

Mm-hmm.