Can you just, just talk about your personal experience there?

When I arrived, I saw the rig.

Again, there was a lot of 1,000-yard stares.

That's, that's the, that's the line I would use, and, and including my captain, you know, Brian Hickey, he was sitting on the front bumper of the rig, and, uh, I ca- I, I didn't know how I was gonna talk about this.

I have talked about it before, but, uh, you know, kinda r- r- going back to what Harry Ford says about making your words sweet in case you gotta eat them, I kinda, without contextual knowledge of actually what was going on in the scene, I jumped to a conclusion.

You know, I, I went up, and I saw the captain on the front step.

He said that, uh, Harry and, uh, John Downey, multiple guys were at the hospital, and, uh, he said Brian is still in the building.

You know, you were talking about Chief Downey and-