How does one market and brand in a world like yours? How do you get in front of the technology companies and tell them, "I could gi- I can get you access to this type of people that you're interested in"? Like, what does brand and marketing look like for, uh, Black Ridge & Co?

Well, you know, going to the events, I just do an event at Mar-a-Lago, uh, the Hispanic Prosperity Gala, where I had, you know, several of the world's wealthiest people there.

And, you know, people refer me.

They're like, "Oh, you gotta meet Michael." You know, I go by Powerballer on Instagram, and if you look at my Instagram, you'll see that I am, you know, I'm with the Jake Pauls, I'm with, you know, the Lonzo Ball, I'm with the CZ from Binance, I'm with the Michael Rubins.

Like, I'm just, I'm just a known character in that world.

Uh, but you know, as of recently, I've been pretty much under the radar, um, you know, for the last 15 years.

You know, private equity people, I would just work under them and, you know, now with the rise of streaming and, you know, going live and everything, people wanna hear how I got to do this.

I have to ask, Michael, what's, what's your number one challenge? What is the one that, that you know if you crack, you take the whole thing to the next level? What would that be for you?

I mean, I don't think she was, she's probably an intelligent person, right? But, um, and like you, you're intelligent, but why haven't you done this thing? You're just scared.

There's lots of fear and there's lots of procrastination.

It's something that most people are not good at.

Or they're good at it, but they're super slow.

Or they're very bad at it and super slow, which is a lot of people.

So I also looked at how people were setting up their structures.

And I talked to people who'd already invested.

what you're saying is that Trudeau owns ChatGPT.