What's your experience of the Entrepreneurs and Dairy programme?

Well, I was a bit like James, really.

I didn't know that the Entrepreneurs and Dairies system actually existed.

So when I was invited to participate, we weren't really quite sure what we were letting ourselves in for.

So all of a sudden, last November, we had about 30 different attendees from all over the countries just suddenly appeared, of which James was one.

So we explained about the barber's business, what our proposition to our farmers is, the level of support we give our farmers.

And I'd say that was the first time I'd met James.

I mean, how else do you sort of support new entrances with this being quite a new thing?

Uh, there's a lot of rhetoric online and it's now manifested itself in murder, unfortunately.

Yeah, I, I...

And let's, let's spend a moment on the important part of, of that statement.

It's all important, but, but John, I do wanna spend a moment.

Yaron Lacinski, born in Israel, wanted to be a diplomat for Israel, grew up in a mixed culture family, devout Christian, dedicated Zionist, and, uh, a man that loved a, a young woman named Sarah Milgram who, uh, originally from Kansas, gets her degree from the University of Kansas.

They meet while engaged in public service at the Israeli Embassy in Washington.

They go to an event which is designed, which is intended to bring people together, and they get murdered by someone for, for simply being there at a Jewish event, at a Jewish, uh, organization is hosting, at a Jewish facility.

Where is the path back to normal? Where is the path out of all this?

Someone is showing people how to do this.

There is absolutely no question that there is a level of coordination and that there is a l- level of, uh, engagement from third parties and, and outside, uh, outside agitators.

I mean if, if we look at the events that happened on our campuses just, just last year, you know, when we saw those encampments, think back to those.

How many people questioned why were the tents the same, why were the posters similar? Were we crazy? On July 9th of last year, um, the Director of National Intelligence at the time noted that Iran was becoming increasingly aggressive in their foreign influence efforts.

They were seeking to discord, stoke discord and undermine confidence in our institutions.

They identified, the Director of National Intelligence identified that Iranian government actors were seeking to take advantage of those ongoing protests regarding the war in Gaza and that they'd actually observed those actors...... posing as activists online, seeking to encourage protests, and even providing financial support to protestors.

That, in law enforcement, is what we call a clue to third-party influence.

You know, what, what can they do with their limited resources to keep themselves safe at these times? Because as we've learned, you know, th- there have been synagogues, you know, in suburban Texas that have been the subject of attacks.