
Michael Mackniak
Attorney (J.D.) and nationally recognized mental health advocate; founder of the Guardian Model and Care Coalition, and host of the Holding It Together (Kinda) podcast.
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Jun 18, 2026
How The Guardian Model Rebuilds Mental Health Care
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Victoria CuoreHOST
What is that exact moment when you realize, I'm not just going to work in this system, I'm going to change it?

Michael MackniakGUEST
Well, you know, as I said, I was practicing law and I never had a real job, I guess.

Michael MackniakGUEST
And one of the ways I did that was to go to the various courts and say, hey, I'm new.
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Victoria CuoreHOST
Tell me how it works and how it can help prevent me from having to go into this $1,000 to $3,000 a day hospital situation.