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Michael Kramer

Oct 9, 2026

7:07
How are you, my friend?
7:09
Uh, first of all, Drew, thanks for having me on the show.
7:10
Appreciate it.
7:11
And you know, the theme today really is giving back.
7:15
And that's how I've grown my business.
7:16
We have about 450 clients at one point.
7:19
I just counted the number of nonprofits that we represented, and that was about 80 of them in Santa Barbara.

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