But when did you kind of know, you know, that passion of mastering that intersection of music and sports? When did that sort of form and get into the picture for you?

Yeah, I think it's just kind of always been there.

Kind of like I said in that previous interview, music's always been part of my life.

Dad would always play Elton John, Beatles, all the classics.

Van Morrison, all that.

And just always having some music going, it felt like, in the evenings.

And then with sports, I always...

And,