So how do kids usually describe this? Like, what's the typical, I don't know, like age that a kid would be talking about this, and how do they generally try to convey what it's like for them if-

So the older they get, as a general statement, the more conversant they are and aware of like what it might be.

But when we start with the school-age kids, you know, they're, they're experiencing stress in some way, shape, or form.

Um, and that may be stress at home, that may be stress at school, but they're not as able to articulate it.

And so it often does manifest in thing- they, they're...

when they're stressed, they're seeking, you know, engagement, parental family engagement.

They're seeking unconditional love.

Hmm.