So just talk me through how Trellis approaches that.

Yeah.

So I think there's a lot of noise out there in the AI market and it's difficult for some people to sort of separate what's real from perception.

And what I mean by that, trust is a classic case in point.

Sovereignty, we hear about sovereign AI, we hear about all these things and we are a sovereign AI company for Australia, of course.

And And there's a lot with trust that makes AI difficult to really adopt at a business layer.

And you're talking intellectual property, customer contracts, the very things that make a business grow and people get paid from.

Talk to me about, you have government users now and you have government customers also, right? But government users with Hergentis, how is it selling to government procurement has been an ongoing issue in terms of buying local tech and it's been difficult for smaller Australian companies to get a foot in the door what's your experience been