How then did you get to that specialty of fintech and healthcare and all those kind of companies that you were covering as a PR person?

Well, there was definitely an adjustment period.

I actually had this conversation with...

My manager at Syntax, she sent me an email being like, because we used to, she used to provide material for me to post on Patch.

So she'd be like, I know we talk a lot.

Do you know anybody who'd be interested in this? Knowing damn well that, well, actually I was at the Herald at the time between Patches.

So I had gotten laid off for a patch.

What do you feel like those skills are and how do you get into that upper echelon for PR people who are saying, you know what, like for whatever reason, I can't seem to break that ceiling?