Mm

... and risks that come with the supply chain.

And what-- And under Michael's leadership at ABF, we started this process to bring industry representatives, highly credentialed, to able to provide assistance and advice and guidance to our law enforcement agencies in terms of where risks are around the country.

For us, it's about identifying those people in our industry that have that skill base, that knowledge, who are willing to participate to be a bit of a, a, a guiding light for the good guys.

That is absolutely critical, whether it be in terms of cyber.

We have a cyber int- uh, cyber intelligence group, cyber, cyber security group, whether it's in that space, whether it's in border security.

The other thing that we have done over the last couple of years is, and this is within Ports Australia, we've got to stop looking at this as an Australian problem.

Yep.