And it led to a conversation with Lono, who was there as well around where in his years and years of experience, he saw a line between ability to, skip an ability to be an elite COE athlete and he told a funny story about how when Andrew Bogut was at MPC camp a few years ago and with his background from a very similar kind of region to yourself skipping was just something that was second nature that was just done as part of a warm-up and he could do the double tucks and everything like that and he was incredibly frustrated by these young people coming through now who just didn't have the ability to skip and some who'd never seen a skipping rope before and it just occurred to me there when you were talking about abilities and and behaviors what's the mike zeppel stance on skipping and and your own personal ability

skipping 100 a very good indicator of athletic ability definitely um and so we have developing, we talk about this a lot.

We were speaking about skipping in the weight room with our strength and conditioning coach last week.

So there is one thing that when I watch young athletes and particularly young Australian athletes and the athletes we have there is your body movement patterns.

The trick is we now have a basketball that we have to bring into the equation.

So it's body and ball movement.

Like your body has to move with the ball in some coherent way so that you can move up the floor and play athletically.

Now you get some out the box who are like the old school kind of team first, how uncomfortable do you feel as a coach that player development experience should be for them to, to, teach them the skills that they don't have and develop them to get things that translate from where they are to where they need to be? I think today