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Sep 3, 2026
Han Christian and Uyghur Muslim Encounters | feat Dr. Michael Copeland
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5:12DylanHOST
So Dr. Copeland, tell us a little bit more about how you came to faith and when you felt called to missions.

Michael CopelandGUEST
Yeah, I came to faith, I grew up in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, and I went to church off and on, but my family was very much, you go to church in order to have moral training and to make sure you believe in God and you're a moral person.

Michael CopelandGUEST
And so to me, God wasn't very much in the forefront of my mind unless I wanted something.

Michael CopelandGUEST
especially getting through middle school and high school and wanting popularity and wanting a girlfriend and all these things.

Michael CopelandGUEST
I was never very successful about that, but I always hoped God would make me awesome enough that I would be able to have that.

Michael CopelandGUEST
But eventually I got to the point about my junior year in high school where I gave up trying to, to one, the moral part, to be this good person that I thought would make me more popular.
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39:41DylanHOST
But from your perspective, if there's someone listening who feels called to missions, but doesn't know where to start, doesn't know what kind of training is necessary, how would you guide them?
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Laura BeilHOST
State medical boards, which are tasked with reining in dangerous doctors, move slowly and deliberately.

Michael CopelandGUEST
We are bad at calling out physicians in our own hospital that are colleagues.

Michael CopelandGUEST
We are bad at that for a number of reasons, but there isn't really an entity that has teeth that oversees that.

Laura BeilHOST
Schneider's former colleague, Michael Copeland, says that means the job of reining in unsafe doctors often falls to the patients themselves.

Michael CopelandGUEST
I think in the United States, we rely heavily on malpractice litigation to regulate physician behavior.

Michael CopelandGUEST
While that has a lot of downside to it because of the large amount of money involved, and the large amount of money never makes anything better, there isn't a plan B.