Now, with those two kind of branches, what was kind of the toughest lesson that you had to learn in this evolution phase, going from studying replay, studying inputs, also now taking in the data? What has been the toughest part of both of those branches?

Yeah, I would say it's probably a two-part answer.

So I think back to my time racing competitively and started in the Coke Series in 2012, and we had very limited resources.

And if I fast forward a bit to like 2017, 2018, that was sort of an inflection point in my pro career where I had a couple down years after my championship in 14, 15, and 16 were not good.

17 started off not very good as well.

And that's when I was reunited with Brandon Hastings, who helped me to my championship in 2014.

And in with Brandon came a lot of best practices that he learned from his time at Penske.

How do you stay grounded with all this going on around you?