So just kinda in layman's terms, [chuckles] as much as I, we can share that, how do we even get started to think about employee ownership for our companies?

Do you know, Kirsten, I'll take, um, a run at that.

Um, so we set up our fund, uh, we started about five years ago, and we are a very unique fund in the country.

Uh, and we have helped seven owners, founder owners, sell their business effectively to their employees.

Of those seven, six of them had never heard of employee ownership and didn't consider it as part of an exit strategy.

They simply put their company up for sale the way one does, which is unusual.

Let's actually take a step back and say most people don't start businesses.

But any final thoughts as we close today?