So you want me to answer my own question? [laughs]

Yeah, yeah.

No, no, no, no.

I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna traverse a bunch of different things, but I mean, I've, I, you know, I've been thinking about this, like, prior to, to coming, to coming on and, and thinking a little bit about what, what, what does it mean to be creative in the creative act.

And I've been...

Oh, since I've also taken on this new role at the, at the, at the institute, and, you know, one of the primary, um, advantages of the institute itself is, is that it's, it's, it's democratizing design, right? The program itself is an interaction design program, but the, the idea of interaction design when it first started out has kind of outpaced itself and outlived itself, that it's basically now we're just talking about design and the design of interactions.

And the idea of the design of interactions is really, like, how do we connect the dots and how do we bridge uncommon things? And really, it's this kind of, like, collision of domains where it's like, you know, now we're talking about, like, service design.

Wow