What's that transition like to working with such a massive company?

Yeah, very different, very different to the golf clubs.

You know, the HR, the training and the support of their employees is sort of completely different to something I dealt with.

So great to have that support.

It's a big company.

With big companies with lots of layers, you know, things can move a bit slower sometimes.

uh and less nimble and smaller companies but um but there's a lot of benefits you know having that that r d base and that the money they put into r d and research new products and services uh the movement in the eu and uk as simon pointed out to away from chemical pesticides towards biologicals and biocontrols I think that's something the rest of the world will be doing at some point.

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