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Jul 15, 2026
He Backed More Than 250 Startups Then Walked Away | Michael Batko
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Michael BatkoGUEST
When I was young, what did I want to do? I think, honestly, it was, like, the classic kind of, like, becoming a professional footballer, or, like, as a, like, soccer player, and, like, that's kind of what it...

Michael BatkoGUEST
Like, I went through business school, and then all my friends essentially became, like, investment bankers and consultants.

Michael BatkoGUEST
And I think it's the same thing as, like, whenever you grow up, you always want to become what your peers kind of, like, value.
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Dylan PathiranaHOST
I want to know, was that something intentional that you tried to develop? If so, what were the core traits you tried to build around culture?
Why Your First Hire Isn't an Engineer Anymore — Michael Batko, ex-Startmate CEO
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James MacDonaldHOST
Is AI native just a, a mentality? Is it a, a learning? How does somebody go from where they might be at at the moment becoming AI native?

Michael BatkoGUEST
Like, the individual, the, the journey usually is something along the lines of I use chat and I, I get into ChatGPT or Claude's.

Michael BatkoGUEST
Then the next one is kind of one of, like, oh, I've created myself a skill or workflow or something like that in it, and then you kind of start seeing the magic of something keep, keep looping through.

Michael BatkoGUEST
The next journey then, which, um, which is actually difficult to take, it's not actually difficult, but, like, it does require a kind of, like, almost, like, inspiration from someone else, is creating yourself, um, almost like an AI brain, and that's almost like the first layer of being AI native for yourself as an individual.

Michael BatkoGUEST
What I c- what I mean by that is, um, distilling all of the information about yourself in one spot.

Michael BatkoGUEST
Whatever the one spot is, it can be a GitHub repository, it can be a Notion page, it can be a massive MD file.
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James MacDonaldHOST
Are these skills that you think are innate to people? Do you think they're skills that people can learn?
Why Your First Hire Isn't an Engineer Anymore — Michael Batko, ex-Startmate CEO
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James MacDonaldHOST
Is AI native just a mentality? Is it a learning? How did somebody go from where they might be at at the moment becoming AI native?

Michael BatkoGUEST
Like the individual, the journey usually is something along the lines of, I use chat and I get into your clothes.

Michael BatkoGUEST
Then the next one is kind of one of like, oh, I've created myself a skill or workflow or something like that in it.

Michael BatkoGUEST
And then you kind of start seeing the magic of something keep keep looping through.

Michael BatkoGUEST
The next journey then, which is actually difficult to take, it's not actually difficult, but it does require almost like inspiration from someone else, is creating yourself almost like an AI brain.

Michael BatkoGUEST
And that's almost like the first layer of being AI native for yourself as an individual.
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James MacDonaldHOST
Are these skills that you think are innate to people? Do you think are skills that people can learn?
