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Michael Ableman

American-Canadian author

Jul 2, 2026

3:28
I was wondering if you could start by telling our listeners what the farm is and how it got started.
3:35
Yeah.
3:35
Uh, we started, uh, oh gosh, I think it's about 13 years ago, with, uh, two primary goals.
3:43
We, we operate on the downtown east side of Vancouver.
3:45
I'm not sure how many of your listeners are familiar with that neighborhood.
3:49
It is considered to be the, uh, the lowest income community neighborhood anywhere in the country.
3:57
Uh, has, uh, highest rates of intravenous drug use, um, material poverty, um, uh, uh, high levels of mental illness.

7 MINS LATER

11:26
Now, for someone who's trying to picture your farm or the orch- or the orchard in their head, could you describe maybe what they'd see? Is it just a parking lot surrounded by tall skyscrapers? How would someone picture this in their head?

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