Mm-hmm

... avoid consequences so I could go to rehab and get help, so they can't, like, fire me if I'm in rehab.

Things like that, or I can't, like, fail my classes at college if I'm in rehab.

It was just an escape the first two times, but I did pick up some things from going to, like, these programs where you're in there for 30, 60 and 90 days.

You, you tend to pick up...

It's like if you hang out in a barber shop, you eventually get a haircut, [laughs] right? So I did unwillingly pick up some things, and then, um, kept going on about life, but I didn't take the whole recovery thing seriously until, um, all the way up until October 18th of 2023.

And mind you, by this point I had been drinking and drugging, like, probably since from 15 to, like, up until that point three years ago, or almost three years ago, sorry.

Mm-hmm.