Mia Freedman

to

a Mamma Mia podcast.

I'm going to go first.

And my dilemma is about, it's kind of about hookups, not my own.

Yeah.

It was Mia Freedman.

It was circa 2018.

And she was like, oh, I'm sorry.

Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud.

It's what women are actually talking about on Wednesday the 21st of October.

I'm Holly Wainwright.

I'm Mia Freedman.

And I'm Jessie Stephens.

And here's what's made our agenda for today.

They are people who've maybe worked in your community.

And I've heard a lot of people saying this week it would be a terrible thing in Australia if we lost that.

This is a special bonus episode of Mamamia Out Loud in partnership with the Australian government.

This conversation is about personal experiences and general information only.

It is not medical advice.

If anything we discuss raises questions for you, please speak to a qualified health professional about your own circumstances.

That's not what we're about here today.

The most important takeaway from today's episode is that you can find evidence-based information, which we love, at health.gov.au/perimenopause. We're gonna be speaking about peri and menopause from our own experiences, but the health.gov.au/perimenopause website has information on symptoms and treatments.

It's got personal stories from real women all across Australia.

It has information in multiple languages, information for LGBTIQA+ people and First Nations women, and accessible information.

I'm Holly Wainwright.

I'm Mia Freedman.

And I'm Jessie Stephens.

And here's what's on our agenda for today.

[laughs]

... and I wanna ask what it has in common with the Matildas and September 11, and why it's Jessie's worst nightmare.

But first, Mia Freedman.

In case you missed it, Girls is coming back.

[upbeat instrumental music] Uh, Holly, the Out Louders, there's a conspiracy theory.

Have you seen the conspiracy theory, Mia?

No.

So, um, you may have seen we're up in lights.

Yeah, I knew you would.

Mm.

I thought, Mia's gonna be really pissed, 'cause she didn't wanna do...

Like, you wouldn't have wanted to do the photo shoot on the day.

I should be crying.

Like, people like Mia Freedman stand, like, you know, still standing by that, like-

Standing up for Ed Sheeran

... like, it's the same.

So instead of your regular show, we are giving you a peek behind the paywall at one of our subscriber episodes.

Now, this one is Mia, Em, and myself, and it's all about an essay that we read and that really made us all think, called Adults Don't Exist.

The idea is that we all spend large parts of our life waiting for someone to tap us on the shoulder and tell us that we're officially grown up, or we expect the adults to arrive and solve our problems, and then suddenly we realize, "Oh, no.

I am [laughs] the adult here." I've got an example that I still squirm about now, about the moment I realized I had to grow up.

Like, you sort of go back to being a kid, like, Mum would make my favorite dinner.

And you s- found yourself slipping into those roles with your siblings and all those things.

And then, to, what, exactly what you're saying, Mia, slowly over time-

Mm