So it's almost like you wanna be helped, but you don't wanna be helped, but how are you gonna be helped if you're not asking for help? So I'm curious to hear what Mers thinks about that.

Yeah.

Uh, I, I knew it was like getting serious when, um, I started to see like my mom take care of Grandma and help her get up, feed her.

And when I saw that, that's when I knew like, okay, this is, this is getting kinda serious.

But even then, because I saw that it looked like it was taken care of, I didn't really tap in to help, um, as much as I probably should have.

Um, I was like the guy that, "Hey, I got my, my own life to, you know, I gotta do this.

I got these responsibilities to handle." At the time, I was coaching hoops, so I was not really at home a lot.

As you're listening to Chris kind of talk about this journey, what feelings does that elicit for you as you're-- And I'm sure this is not the first time you've had these conversations, but as you're listening to it, as you're listening to Chris reflect on those experiences, the resentment, those feelings of isolation, et cetera, how do-- You-- What are your feelings now, and how does that, you know, make you view Chris differently maybe? Or what are your thoughts?