Mel, how do you pull out the one that goes, "Oh, yeah," or the five that go, "Yep, they're gonna get interviews"? What is it that you've seen?

I think I'd have to caveat this with it, it depends on the, the designer you're looking at or the, the level you're looking for.

Because, you know, if I'm looking for, say, which I am right now, a design director versus a junior, the expectation in that folio and perhaps the time given is going to probably be, be quite different.

But I think, like, across the board, you'd probably be...

It is true you're kind of going through hundreds, so I, I think to Chris's point, I kind of like to be able to get to the work very quickly, and so if it's very clear, I under- like, I understand it.

So first thing is not too many, and then I c- that also helps me get into the work much quicker.

It's explained in, you know, it could be on a paragraph on a page.

... how do you define the, an idea that you can see that there's one, two, three ideas in someone's, in someone's work?