But that was one thing that our team brought to the project was a solution, a design strategy to be fully decarbonized on day one and within the project budget.

So they had created a tool that they were just starting to build out, which now has become C-scale, which is becoming kind of a standard.

a tool for people who want to measure embodied carbon in the built environment.

That was something that was in their package that was very impressive to say.

And I remember Stephen Ayers making the point of they really seem to understand the data and the analysis that goes into buildings.

And this is the kind of firm that makes sense for AIA to hire because of not only because of our own commitments and the data that is associated with them, but the fact that this is kind of where the industry is going.

We're interacting with more and more different kinds of data and needing to understand everything from energy modeling to like the kind of post occupancy experience and surveys.

And so kind of taking that same idea of innovation and sort of looking ahead to the future.