What else was challenging for you at that point? Were you at work then?

No, so I was on mat leave.

So a whole lot of different things to unpack, I think, out of that question, because it was, how am I going to go back to work? Will this job even work for me with everything that I'm trying to juggle now on my own? Because I was at the time working in a newsroom and I started work at 7am.

That wasn't practical.

I sat down and did the maths and worked out that after I took out my mortgage and childcare for a baby and a toddler and just basic things like, you know, food, there was no money left.

And so I'd worked out that actually what I was earning was not enough for us to even stay in the city in Sydney.

And my parents said, you can come home, come home to country Victoria.

And