How did you become the CEO? How long have you been in life insurance? So I started in

business as a software developer.

Working within the financial services, working for a multi-line insurance company.

That would be property and casualty, fidelity bonds, life and annuities, asset management.

And I always had a keen interest of wanting to learn the business side of the house.

Because as I was building...

Software and tools.

Do you have like a pre-filled assessment or are you just asking that question? I'm asking