She's the president of Kuya.

Kuya is very...

It's, it's a clinic, right? So we do wellness modalities.

We have deeper we- um, medical experiences.

But it doesn't feel like a clinic.

About ice baths, about sensory deprivation tanks.

So there's no light, there's no sound, there's no weight.

This is really the only time that you're completely weightless.

And I would love for you to kind of share a little bit about that concept.

Sure.

We used to approach folks when we're thinking about, you know, how can we reach a brain to try to help someone, right? We used to approach things in a very talk forward way, right? And Wanda mentioned bottom up earlier.

So she was referencing this.

We used to say, hey, let's just have a conversation.

Let's talk about what's hard, right? What we've learned through neuroscience is that people have to be regulated.

They have to be calm and focused enough to actually engage in those conversations.

And Megan, were you there the whole time for that