Yeah, I was gonna say, I've never heard of, heard of that before.

Yeah, so I started creating pieces.

Originally, my first, um, person I was working with was Ro- was Roxanne Perez.

I created her this piece that said Prodigy that really is a big part of her character.

And then from there, um, worked with the likes of Seth Rollins.

He started wearing his design on pretty much everything from ESPN to Good Morning Football to, um, even Netflix.

If you wa- if you look at Unreal and you see the Netflix show Unreal, he is the poster child for Unreal, and it's him in black pants, um, the necklace, and then he's swinging his title above his head.

I think, you know, it, it does take a lot of time to kinda figure out who you wanna be in the ring and who you want fans to think that you are, you know? Um, but then there's the person who they are behind the scenes and off camera and what do you think like people don't see about that? Like I do interviews because I like to see who they, who the person really is.

Okay

... to Florida in 95 degree heat.

I was outside yesterday.

Obviously, I live in Orlando, right down the road from the PC.

Um, and it is steaming hot in here.

And if it rains, it would cool it off for just a second, but it's gonna be humid and even nastier, and you're just gonna be sweating.

So first and foremost, I should say, do not wear a suit.

... a conversation with him before we go live?

Doesn't Bianca make her own gear?

She does.

She does.

And we dive into some of those stories because Bianca just, and I don't mind to give a little spoiler.

She wasn't finding someone exactly that was a seamstress or seamstress that was making the vision that she had in mind.

So she said, you know what? My grandmother taught me to sew.

I'll just figure it out on my own.

But why did you feel like Macho was the perfect person to put on the cover?

What was the wrestler for you that really highlighted the fact of all this elaborate gear and made you take notice of the gear in pro wrestling?

There's so many, you know, like I've been asked, like, what's my Mount Rushmore of favorite wrestlers gears? And I think it's all perspective.

I think it's all point of view of who you are and what you think is cool, which is a big point of this book was the psychology behind it, because we're all individuals.

We all have different tastes.

We all have different people.

that we connect to because we're like, oh, I love how they express themselves.

For me, I think it's across the board.

Who have been some of your favorite gear makers that we can highlight?

Yep.

And so I try to watch and tune in when there are big moments for him, um, just to see what's going on.

You know, I worked there for four years, so it's such an interesting perspective going back now to be able to watch the show in a different way.

And I like to catch what's going on.

I think this new era, and I think, uh, Vic said it ad nauseam on commentary, of it's an, it's a year, it's an era of opportunity.

And for me, it was really cool when I was thinking about this today, of getting to come on and talk to you on Busted Open, and talk about the new NXT, if you will.

There's the waves, and we ride these waves of, like, the talent, and then you see them go off, and they do their big thing, and they go to Raw, they go to SmackDown.

Your thoughts?

So, you know, kinda tell us how that's going, 'cause you, I, you also have a store in Nashville, right?

Yes.

I'm actually in Nashville at the moment in our apartment.

Um, so I'm traveling.

I'm on the road.

I feel like I'm a professional traveler now, from going, splitting my time between Orlando and Nashville, and then on the road with TNA.

But the jewelry store's been fantastic.

... talk to us about what, how that was decided upon and how you've been enjoying the journey so far.