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Mary Catherine Lader

Mary Catherine Lader

Founder of Native Markets

Oct 22, 2026

62:57
Yes.
63:00
There are plenty of industrials in the world who are all trying to figure out how they can change their businesses with AI, right? As well as small startups and emerging companies.
63:09
And what that looks like is a little different for every company.
63:12
And so what we found is that you guys talk about diffusion on this show all the time.
63:16
And so what we found is that this diffusion needs partnership.
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It needs everything from partnership and what security means for a financial services company versus a healthcare company to how you can reimagine vertical software in a completely different way and build totally new products.
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Now you have software abundance.
64:08
What will they be doing? What is going to be replicated across cognition versus siloed in a particular vertical? Is it product changes? Is it marketing? Go to market? What needs to live within a specific pod versus be shared across the entire organization these days?
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Well, it's
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interesting because yes.
30:25
And yes.
30:25
And and.
30:27
know in some ways and that the so the trading volume on the Uniswap protocol there were there were fewer things like it there was less competition and it was kind of peak at that moment up until like we've had another bull market more recently and then a little bit now maybe But the protocol volume was about a quarter to half of what it is today.
30:47
Okay.
30:48
So it was still meaningful.

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51:38
So like if we could just put on our pessimistic hats for a minute and, you know, think about things where we should be careful about or concerned about, like what what kinds of things come to mind?

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