Did you have some experience like that in what you were dealing with?

I mean, one of the powerful reasons why you really need a movement is because things do take time.

Some of the battles I'm fighting now today, I've been fighting for over 30 years.

For example, to protect the Delaware River from the Salem Nuclear Generating Station, a facility that uses old technology for cooling its facility.

And as a result, it kills... over 3 billion Delaware River fish a year.

Those fish kills could be reduced by over 95% if that facility would be required to put in place modern technology and cooling practices.

But the government has chosen not to require that.

Like any place else, Michigan has learned the hard way.