need that clarity as to, you know, are we investing in drones? Are we investing in aircraft? Are we interested in ships again? Or have ships gone down the river, as it were? Max?

Well, a vote of no confidence from Donald Trump perhaps isn't a surprise.

And with a man who has such a strange record when it comes to democracy and voting, I think, well, maybe if he's voting no confidence, can we trust him? Possibly not.

I think Jake was right in what he said about where we need to be focusing defence spending.

Annabel was right actually on the point of seriousness as a country.

The first duty of any government is to defend its people and it is failing at the moment and we've been failing at that for a number of years and we need to ask ourselves very serious questions about whether we are serious enough as a nation to get to the 3% target at the moment because I don't think...

Actually, we are on track for that.

But the question is, what can be done about

But now it seems the law is being changed and about time too.

Well, it's the right thing to do.

And there is something intrinsic about the English condition that means that we want to go to the pub to watch England during the World Cup.

It's only once every four years.

And, you know, we feel the world in motion at these times, don't we? And we whisper to each other in our ears, you know, it's coming home.

And these are those things that make being English really special.

And obviously, last night, we saw Harry Kane banging in two goals, rescuing England again.

What's your take on your advice for parents with children saying they don't want to go to school on Monday morning because they'll be watching the game one till three? What's your advice? Are you a parent yourself?

Max Wilkinson, I don't know why you were sitting in PMQs, but I could see some of your Lib Dem colleagues sitting behind Nigel Farage, absolutely incandescent about what he was saying.

I was sitting at some of those benches that run parallel or at 90 degrees along the end.

So I had a fairly good view of what was going on.

It was very clear what Nigel Farage was going to do the moment he was called.

um the short answer to the question from joe is yes he does use overly emotive language and he knows the result of that as politicians when we get elected or when we end up in the house of lords we know that if we're in the media and if we're making statements our words carry weight and some people will act upon those words and that means that we have a responsibility at these moments where there are tensions, when there's division, not to act in a way that is going to make things worse.

Nigel Farage, his first act was not to heed the suggestions of Mark Novak.

His first act was to record a social media video.

But that's what a lot of people think because of that form of confusion.

But do you think the government have handled this in the proper way?

Well, good evening, Ian.

Good to be on.

Uh, the first thing I think we all need to say when talking about this is that the victims and survivors of Epstein's abuse are the ones who need the justice here.

Peter Mandelson's role in this, uh, I think most people will be able to judge for themselves based on the release of the documents.

Now, it is within the government's gift to bring forward legislation to strip him of his peerage.

Darren Jones, in the Commons this afternoon, wasn't really being drawn on that.

Um, devil's advocate question here coming up: Do you think sometimes in these circumstances, um, politicians and the media are almost like a lynch mob, and, and they want that, they want their pint of blood, and they're determined to get it, and that can actually have sometimes some quite unintended consequences?

You're a Liberal, you must understand that.

I'm a liberal, right? And when I was at university, I used to meet socialists, Socialist Workers Party, the Communist Party.

They were always there at the trade stands at Freshers' Week and all that sort of stuff.

And they're all around, right? You've met these people.

They say the problem is that proper communism and proper socialism has never been done, right? And they say, well, the USSR, that was a disaster, wasn't it? All those countries behind the Iron Curtain, they didn't do very well.

And the Brexiteers, the hardcore Brexiteers, are now making exactly the same arguments.

If only it was done in the way that I wanted.

channel the focus on that debate.

I saw somewhere that you're now claiming you're the party in Middle England.

I think it's obvious that we are now, Christopher.

Thanks for having me on.

It's nice to be here.

Clearly, the results show that in places where the Liberal Democrats are the challenges to the Conservatives or the Conservatives are the challenges to the Liberal Democrats, the voters are making a very clear choice and they're choosing Liberal Democrats over Conservatives.

And we're now on course to replace the Conservatives as the party of Middle England.

In my own area, Cheltenham, a year ago, we still had Quite a lot of Conservative councillors and a Conservative MP.

Is it all at the expense of the Conservatives or Labour too?