So like, I don't know, I just thought it was interesting and I think a lot of these lists are interesting because I never actually understand what is trying to be captured.

No, I think Jalen Johnson's also a good example of the PRA era, where guys who just rack up points, rebounds, assists, those counting stats kind of get...

they kind of vault into those top five.

Again, I'm not taking anything away from a guy like Jokic, obviously, who's definitely at worst one of the top three players probably in the sport.

But it's the same thing with the Russell Westbrook MVP convos.

When he won MVP and he's just putting up all of those counting stat numbers, people kind of just look at that in its own vacuum, I guess.

Like, and I don't know, like, like again, like comparing like OG as a single individual, like to these other guys, I probably wouldn't have them like putting him in like every player's certain like, um, like, uh, environment, like, like you said, like it wouldn't work.

All right, Max, number two.