I think to me, that's something I didn't expect when I started this 10 years ago.

they're real hot rodders and i think that's the difference is you know a porsche you can buy a great porsche out of the box you can buy some of these other cars right out of the box a shelby mustang the original daytona coupe was a hot rotted and an aluminum paneled modified british racing car from the 50s i mean like and they and it was winning i mean it was winning against purpose-built cars in the mid 60s carol would say it's an old car with buggy springs and and they were getting it to win To me, that's the brotherhood.

That's somebody that says, we're going to put our minds together and anybody, the kid sweeping the floor might even have an idea that gets us an extra two seconds or something.

Going back to the Ford versus Ferrari movie, outside of the Shelby recognition, the best thing it did was bring Ken Miles' achievements to light because so many people did not even know who Ken Miles was, and he was so critical to the success, and he was a fantastic driver.

And an engineer.

I mean, he was a born engineer.

Phil Remington, Charlie Agapu.

I mean, these guys that really were critical to this.