I wanna cover, um, first starting, you were the, you were the team captain of the Central Oregon Community College program back in 2012, which was the, the program's inaugural season, right? Um, talk to us a little bit about how you got started in rugby, and then how that club came online, and what was it like your first year playing, uh, that?

that?Yeah.

So my uncle started this program that I'm now the head coach of, uh, Central Oregon Community College.

We-- COCC for short.

Um, he started the program in 2012.

That's my dad's brother.

His name's Woody.

Hmm.