convene people, then you get the benefit of being the, you know, the person that's the spoke in the middle of that wheel, right? You're bringing all these people

together.

Exactly.

And, you know, I liked it because what I did there, I'm doing again, but it was all kinds of people, like scientists, business people, artists, like industry, entertainment, like the whole gamut and different ages.

And that's like, that kind of bonding is so much more interesting and valuable than just being around the same person in like an echo chamber, which it's actually really hard to find different kinds of people in different spaces.

Yeah, that's one of

part of.

Exactly.