Totally.

A song like Have Faith in Me by A Day to Remember, that was a huge deal for finding something like that where it's heavy, but it's still absolutely pop music.

And then leaning more into the political stuff, I think one of the first bands that I saw be like properly like politically active was the wonder years yeah because they were like huge about bernie bernie sanders that and i feel like that was a very pivotal thing for like a lot of people my age i'm 26 for context so i was like just shy of being able to vote in 2016 and so like i feel like that's like a very unique frustration for like me and people born in 99 where like If only we could have just fucking voted.

Yeah.

Like maybe things would be different.

It's like, like I find that that's a very unique frustration for people born in like 99 and 2000.

And so that was, like, a big piece in radicalizing me.

So I'm guessing this wasn't your first musical project, right? Or was it? okay so so what kind of music were you making prior to that have you always done vocals were you do it like an