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Matthew Waxman

Matthew Waxman

Professor and former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Detainee Affairs

Sep 26, 2026

15:39
That's actually a great segue into my next question, which is, do you see an international treaty being realistic? Is that something that we can cooperate on in terms of autonomous weapons and AI and military use?
15:52
I see a treaty as out of reach.
15:57
For a few reasons.
15:59
One, just historically, it's been very difficult to reach an agreement on a treaty to deal with military technologies, sadly, before a catastrophe.
16:14
It's often in the wake.
16:16
It's often after a catastrophe.
16:20
Very costly wars, for example.

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36:13
So how do you see the technology changing those kinds of roles?
Molly NixonMODERATOR
14:17
Or can Congress direct and constrain certain covert operations from intelligence gathering? Does it have that lawmaking power at all?
14:27
Can I just jump in for a second to address part of that and also just follow on some comments that John made a moment ago? I guess I probably am less confident maybe than some of the other panelists that the founders intended to place all of those national security powers under this sort of rubric of executive power.
14:50
I do think that's where a lot of them migrated.
14:53
I just don't, I'm not as confident, perhaps, that was as deliberate.
14:59
I would say that, for example, James Madison, as a primary architect, he was brilliant about a lot of things.
15:05
I think national security was a weak place.
15:08
point, sort of a weak area for him.

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41:15
And it tells you something about the system and how the people who gravitate towards these committees tend to understand a bit more than the average member of Congress why these things are important and necessary.
3:08
Why has President Trump labeled the drug runners as a foreign terrorist organization and call them narco-terrorists?
3:16
So I think it makes sense to think about the Trump administration's actions as an escalating series of legal moves.
3:25
It had designated some cartels as foreign terrorist organizations or FTOs.
3:32
That unlocks certain criminal law, immigration, and sanctions authorities.
3:39
It invoked an ancient law going back to 1798 that authorizes the swift removal from the United States of enemy aliens.
3:50
Quote, enemy aliens is the term, and it applied that to suspected members of Tren de Aragua.
3:58
It's used lethal force against Tren de Aragua drug vessels or suspected vessels in the Caribbean claiming that these were done in self-defense.

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16:18
What's the import of that leaked memo that the Trump administration sent to Congress saying that the government had decided it was in a non-international armed conflict with the designated terrorist groups from Venezuela?

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