
Matthew Shifrin
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Jun 17, 2026
Lego for the Blind & the Future of Surface Laptops
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32:27Steven ScottHOST
Take us back to that moment and what it felt like to build a set on your own for the very first time.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
It was truly an incredible moment, because when you are building a set, it is a rare opportunity to only be focused on the set and where the pieces go, and that flow state was so hard to come by as a blind person.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
Blind people are anxious by nature, and you, all the traveling and navigation, whatever else that you have to do, it is very, very difficult to find something that relaxes you fully and immerses you fully in an experience.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
And not only was it relaxing and immersive for me, but I was able to learn about the parts of the world that were very difficult to access for blind people.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
In the case of this set, I was building a Middle Eastern palace, and the domes of this palace and the minarets of this palace, it was really an incredible, an incredible experience.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
My friends had been building Lego sets for years, and they would talk about the spaceships they built and the castles and whatever, and for me, it had been very difficult to build them because there were no accessible instructions.
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43:28Steven ScottHOST
I mean, yes, it probably could take those instructions, it probably could dissect it, but it's not gonna do it in the same way with the same care that you've done with Bricks for the Blind.
You Can Build This: The Story of Bricks for the Blind with Matthew Shifrin
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2:50LouisaHOST
For someone who's never thought about Lego building from the perspective of a blind person, what are some of the barriers that you see have come up?

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
I think one of the major ones is just making sure that your pieces are properly sorted because if a blind person builds like a sighted Lego builder, they just open up a bag and dump everything out, and then just finding the piece that you need can be very overwhelming.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
And that's why we at Bricks for the Blind, we provide sorting instructions for each set.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
And before you start, you would have a sighted friend or a family member or use a service like Aira or Be My Eyes that provide remote assistance to help you sort the pieces for every couple of steps into separate containers so that you can build with the speed and the agility of a sighted person.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
But another thing that I think that blind people, uh, rather sighted people may not have considered is just the educational opportunities that Lego sets afford blind people.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
I was at a place recently, and they had a Lego Space Needle on display, and it was very interesting because I had assumed that the Space Needle in Seattle was just a needle-shaped building that looked like a knitting or a sewing needle standing up.

Matthew ShifrinGUEST
No, it looks like someone plonked a UFO onto this kind of tripod-like pole with these girders that are, um, kind of sliding inward into the main support structure that holds up this UFO.
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13:08LouisaHOST
How do you decide which Lego set to create instructions for? How do you, how do you decide that?